Meditation

this will really help… or if I am an analyst and I believe that I can help someone, I naturally depict this publicly. D. W. : You mean that it will develop all by itself? Prof. Engel : Yes. TM performs a good pioneering function. They try to define things objectively with methodology. This is indeed a rather good way. Methods are being developed in Zen - because we have nothing to hide. If I may dare to make a comparison: We had astrology for centuries. We always had it and we will always have it. Astronomy developed from it later. If we want to fly to the Moon, we can not solely rely in astrology. Astronomy must formulate legalities that are absolutely imperative for such an endeavour. So why shouldn’t this also apply to what you call “THE OTHER REALITY”? We must formulate the legalities that apply. What are the initial conditions? What are the implementation conditions and what is the aim? I do believe that we will find a systematic approach through incidental findings. D. W. : You already rendered considerable ground-breaking work with your book “Meditation - Systematik - Forschung - Theorie”. Prof. Engel : This might be a small contribution. The great meditative people are as it were natural talents. Whether you talk about Sri Chinmoi or others, most of them had deep meditative experiences during their childhood and expanded on them later. This would be a Mozart in regards to music. He was already able to write down a symphony that he had heard at age three. The systematic access to meditation, ergo constant practice, will on the other hand continue to gain importance. D. W. : I would like to once again deal with the significance of meditation. We do indeed have many problems here on Earth. Starting with xenophobia via drug problems, lots of divorces etc. Let’s assume that all people were introduced to meditation. Do you think that the just mentioned problematics and many others besides, would no longer crop up to such a degree? Prof. Engel : I naturally assume this. You mentioned a few examples, environmental behaviourism is naturally also a part of this. • I assume that people that find their inner core are no longer prone to take drugs. • People that no longer separate self from what’s outside will naturally deal completely differently with the environment. • People that reach their inner core are no longer exposed to specific dangers. D. W. : Would you regard this work as dealing with the root of the problem?

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